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		<title>Comment on School Choice? It’s up to you! by PATTI TYMAN</title>
		<link>http://blog.savebethelhigh.com/2009/04/05/school-choice-it%e2%80%99s-up-to-you/comment-page-1/#comment-52</link>
		<dc:creator>PATTI TYMAN</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Jul 2009 11:13:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>WE DO NOT NEED A NEW HIGH SCHOOL. WHY NOT PUT ENCLOSED PORTICOS BETWEEN THE BUILDINGS. THAT WOULD BE MORE COST EFFECTIVE AND WOULD MAKE IT BETTER FOR THE STUDENTS IN INCLIMATE WEATHER?  THIS WOULD BE THE SECOND &quot;NEW HIGH SCHOOL&quot; SINCE I MOVED INTO THIS COMMUNITY. ENOUGH IS ENOUGH.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>WE DO NOT NEED A NEW HIGH SCHOOL. WHY NOT PUT ENCLOSED PORTICOS BETWEEN THE BUILDINGS. THAT WOULD BE MORE COST EFFECTIVE AND WOULD MAKE IT BETTER FOR THE STUDENTS IN INCLIMATE WEATHER?  THIS WOULD BE THE SECOND &#8220;NEW HIGH SCHOOL&#8221; SINCE I MOVED INTO THIS COMMUNITY. ENOUGH IS ENOUGH.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Save Our High School! by Mark Kirschner</title>
		<link>http://blog.savebethelhigh.com/2009/04/05/save-our-high-school/comment-page-1/#comment-51</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark Kirschner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Jun 2009 23:44:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The claim that meetings were held before this passed discounts the lack of information provided that the issue was up to debate. Many of us residents of Bethel Park are busy raising families and working long hours. That is why we have a representative based system. But the system is meant for issues without the massive gravity of this proposal. If the issue of spending (at least) 100 Million was seriously announced and voted directly upon, I&#039;m sure the response would be much different. I don&#039;t need to remind any Pittsburghers of how the new stadiums were rammed down our throats. 

On another note, be aware that the last meeting resulted in a vote to remove the occupational tax - considered a &quot;nuisance tax&quot; by the school board. What the board didn&#039;t highlight was that now the property owners of Bethel Park will need to have their taxes raised to account for the difference. I guess that it is easier for the school board to rack up taxes for homeowners than to track down renters. Oh, by the way, they were able to do so for years before this without difficulty. What this amounts to is a penalty on us who care enough about our town to invest long term on living here.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The claim that meetings were held before this passed discounts the lack of information provided that the issue was up to debate. Many of us residents of Bethel Park are busy raising families and working long hours. That is why we have a representative based system. But the system is meant for issues without the massive gravity of this proposal. If the issue of spending (at least) 100 Million was seriously announced and voted directly upon, I&#8217;m sure the response would be much different. I don&#8217;t need to remind any Pittsburghers of how the new stadiums were rammed down our throats. </p>
<p>On another note, be aware that the last meeting resulted in a vote to remove the occupational tax &#8211; considered a &#8220;nuisance tax&#8221; by the school board. What the board didn&#8217;t highlight was that now the property owners of Bethel Park will need to have their taxes raised to account for the difference. I guess that it is easier for the school board to rack up taxes for homeowners than to track down renters. Oh, by the way, they were able to do so for years before this without difficulty. What this amounts to is a penalty on us who care enough about our town to invest long term on living here.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Save Our High School! by Ryan Glover</title>
		<link>http://blog.savebethelhigh.com/2009/04/05/save-our-high-school/comment-page-1/#comment-48</link>
		<dc:creator>Ryan Glover</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Jun 2009 10:26:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think we all know the &quot;more people want it than don&#039;t&quot; argument is ridiculous.  If that were the case, why so much friction on a referendum?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think we all know the &#8220;more people want it than don&#8217;t&#8221; argument is ridiculous.  If that were the case, why so much friction on a referendum?</p>
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		<title>Comment on Save Our High School! by Bob</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Jun 2009 16:58:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Obviously, the timing of the Bethel Park High School building project could not be worse.   The recession has set in, and home values in the borough are plummeting.  To make matters more painful, Bethel Park Borough is allowing a commercial business (Mercy Behavioral Heath) to be conducted in a residential neighborhood (Fredericka Drive).  If this practice becomes more widespread in the borough, home values may never recover.    Where does the Bethel Park School Board expect to get the money to pay for their boondoggle?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Obviously, the timing of the Bethel Park High School building project could not be worse.   The recession has set in, and home values in the borough are plummeting.  To make matters more painful, Bethel Park Borough is allowing a commercial business (Mercy Behavioral Heath) to be conducted in a residential neighborhood (Fredericka Drive).  If this practice becomes more widespread in the borough, home values may never recover.    Where does the Bethel Park School Board expect to get the money to pay for their boondoggle?</p>
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		<title>Comment on Save Our High School! by Paula Gouirand</title>
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		<dc:creator>Paula Gouirand</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Jun 2009 23:59:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was watching some of the news media on this website. On one it was mentioned most people in Bethel want this new school. Then last Sunday I was reading the news paper and there in the Parade Magazine was what follows about Property Taxes being to High. I say lets leave it to the residence who live here in Bethel to decide. Has anyone seem to notice we are in hard economic times with Big Companies filing banckrupcy and shuting down. Wake Up People!

 Is Your Property Tax Too High? 
Across America, home values have plunged, but property taxes—the tax homeowners pay based on their homes’ assessed value—have not. 

“Nationwide, we have properties that may be overassessed by as much as 60%,” says Pete Sepp of the National Taxpayers Union, a watchdog group in Washington, D.C. Since those figures are based on studies conducted before the housing bubble burst, it’s likely that even more homeowners are paying too much property tax today. “Many localities are still charging taxes based on the housing-boom values of a few years ago,” Sepp explains. 

While you can cut back on spending to lower your sales-tax burden or pay less income tax if your salary is cut or you lose your job, property taxes are not designed to respond immediately to economic pressures. In fact, according to U.S. Census Bureau figures, property taxes are one of the few areas of tax revenue bringing in more money than last year. Although most municipalities calculate the value of homes every three to five years, there are no national standards for how often reassessments should take place. 

The good news is that, unlike sales and income taxes, property taxes can be appealed—and many homeowners are doing just that. Some 50,000 appeals were filed this spring in Atlanta alone—10 times more than in 2008. Another study found that almost 750,000 New Jersey homes are worth less than local assessors say. If the homes were correctly valued, their owners could save an average of $2000 a year in taxes—but local municipalities would lose millions in funding. 

In the past, about 40% of all appeals nationwide have been successful. But that may not be the case this time. Local governments often depend on property taxes as their primary source of income, and most schools are funded via property taxes. With budgets already stretched thin, property taxes represent a source of revenue that local governments may not be willing to give up. 

— Lyric Wallwork Winik</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was watching some of the news media on this website. On one it was mentioned most people in Bethel want this new school. Then last Sunday I was reading the news paper and there in the Parade Magazine was what follows about Property Taxes being to High. I say lets leave it to the residence who live here in Bethel to decide. Has anyone seem to notice we are in hard economic times with Big Companies filing banckrupcy and shuting down. Wake Up People!</p>
<p> Is Your Property Tax Too High?<br />
Across America, home values have plunged, but property taxes—the tax homeowners pay based on their homes’ assessed value—have not. </p>
<p>“Nationwide, we have properties that may be overassessed by as much as 60%,” says Pete Sepp of the National Taxpayers Union, a watchdog group in Washington, D.C. Since those figures are based on studies conducted before the housing bubble burst, it’s likely that even more homeowners are paying too much property tax today. “Many localities are still charging taxes based on the housing-boom values of a few years ago,” Sepp explains. </p>
<p>While you can cut back on spending to lower your sales-tax burden or pay less income tax if your salary is cut or you lose your job, property taxes are not designed to respond immediately to economic pressures. In fact, according to U.S. Census Bureau figures, property taxes are one of the few areas of tax revenue bringing in more money than last year. Although most municipalities calculate the value of homes every three to five years, there are no national standards for how often reassessments should take place. </p>
<p>The good news is that, unlike sales and income taxes, property taxes can be appealed—and many homeowners are doing just that. Some 50,000 appeals were filed this spring in Atlanta alone—10 times more than in 2008. Another study found that almost 750,000 New Jersey homes are worth less than local assessors say. If the homes were correctly valued, their owners could save an average of $2000 a year in taxes—but local municipalities would lose millions in funding. </p>
<p>In the past, about 40% of all appeals nationwide have been successful. But that may not be the case this time. Local governments often depend on property taxes as their primary source of income, and most schools are funded via property taxes. With budgets already stretched thin, property taxes represent a source of revenue that local governments may not be willing to give up. </p>
<p>— Lyric Wallwork Winik</p>
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		<title>Comment on Save Our High School! by T. Cenci</title>
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		<dc:creator>T. Cenci</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 May 2009 14:27:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have something to say to those school board members who think security would be improved with one building: please take into consideration that Columbine High School was ONE building. Please take into consideration that the Oklahoma City Federal Building was ONE building. Go to any instance of a shooter or bomber who operated on a campus, and tell me how it would have turned out better if everybody was in the same building. The security argument for a new school is the dumbest argument of all! We need to sue the School Board to stop this.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have something to say to those school board members who think security would be improved with one building: please take into consideration that Columbine High School was ONE building. Please take into consideration that the Oklahoma City Federal Building was ONE building. Go to any instance of a shooter or bomber who operated on a campus, and tell me how it would have turned out better if everybody was in the same building. The security argument for a new school is the dumbest argument of all! We need to sue the School Board to stop this.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Save Our High School! by Lynne Hyatt</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lynne Hyatt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 May 2009 22:20:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bethel Park does NOT need a new high school building.

Mt. Lebanon’s High School building is as old as Bethel Park&#039;s –if not older! And Mt. Lebanon was awarded a SILVER Medal ranking by US News and World Report for 2009 Best US High Schools.

Bethel Park did not even receive a Bronze – or an Honorable Mention! Yet we spend as much per HS student as Mt. Lebanon. The only natural conclusion from this is that if Mt Lebanon can achieve this with such an old and dilapidated school – it is NOT the building! It is superior teaching and community/parental involvement not superior facilities that really make the difference.

Bethel Park needs to improve its teaching processes before spending so much money on such an expensive, poorly conceived building.

Having attended several school board meetings, never once was one school board member able to show how a new building would improve scores and student performance. Even the literature on their website (primarily all from one self-serving architectural firm) demonstrates that it is processes together with community and parental involvement that achieve great results.

The School board has been less than forthcoming with financial answers and details. Much more information should be available for the residents to review along with justification for how a new building will improve the education of our students.

We need a referendum!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bethel Park does NOT need a new high school building.</p>
<p>Mt. Lebanon’s High School building is as old as Bethel Park&#8217;s –if not older! And Mt. Lebanon was awarded a SILVER Medal ranking by US News and World Report for 2009 Best US High Schools.</p>
<p>Bethel Park did not even receive a Bronze – or an Honorable Mention! Yet we spend as much per HS student as Mt. Lebanon. The only natural conclusion from this is that if Mt Lebanon can achieve this with such an old and dilapidated school – it is NOT the building! It is superior teaching and community/parental involvement not superior facilities that really make the difference.</p>
<p>Bethel Park needs to improve its teaching processes before spending so much money on such an expensive, poorly conceived building.</p>
<p>Having attended several school board meetings, never once was one school board member able to show how a new building would improve scores and student performance. Even the literature on their website (primarily all from one self-serving architectural firm) demonstrates that it is processes together with community and parental involvement that achieve great results.</p>
<p>The School board has been less than forthcoming with financial answers and details. Much more information should be available for the residents to review along with justification for how a new building will improve the education of our students.</p>
<p>We need a referendum!</p>
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		<title>Comment on Save Our High School! by Tim</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 May 2009 15:44:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I read about the new building proposal today in the Post Gazette, it is extremely upsetting. I was always proud of Bethel Park High School, because I felt like it used its funds wisely, by spending money on the students and their education and not vainly seeking to impress outsiders with its fancy building facades and exorbitant atriums. In contrast to some of the neighboring communities, whose high schools are excessively opulent, BPHS has--so I thought--ignored the peer pressure and focused its money and efforts on its students, not its buildings. 

The $100 Million Dollar construction proposal, if I do my math correctly, comes out to costing approximately $8300/Household, there being roughly, 12,000 households in BP. Someone mentioned the finance costs, put it up to an eventual, actual total of $200 Million. The cost then will wind up being $16,600 per household, with the median Household income in the District at about $53,000, that is an incredible about of money, regardless if it is spread out over the coming decades.

I currently own a home that was built 80 years ago, it is in great condition and I intend on keeping it for another 80 years if possible. While I recognize that BPHS may not last quite that long, it certainly has another 20 years before you even need to think about building new facilities... maybe another 80 if proper maintenance is done.

To reiterate: when will schools grasp that their quality is not represented by the glamor of their buildings, but by the quality of their student&#039;s education.

This money could be spent on:

- Creating a permanent endowment to send 100&#039;s of kids every year on Study Abroad programs.
- Creating the BEST Specialty Academic Program in the state: i.e. Arts or Science/Technology

Both of these things would directly serve students and would make BPHS a destination school for a lot of families.

Parents will choose to move their families to the district, not if the buildings are new, but if the academic programs go the extra mile to serve the students.

Peace,

Tim Cook</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I read about the new building proposal today in the Post Gazette, it is extremely upsetting. I was always proud of Bethel Park High School, because I felt like it used its funds wisely, by spending money on the students and their education and not vainly seeking to impress outsiders with its fancy building facades and exorbitant atriums. In contrast to some of the neighboring communities, whose high schools are excessively opulent, BPHS has&#8211;so I thought&#8211;ignored the peer pressure and focused its money and efforts on its students, not its buildings. </p>
<p>The $100 Million Dollar construction proposal, if I do my math correctly, comes out to costing approximately $8300/Household, there being roughly, 12,000 households in BP. Someone mentioned the finance costs, put it up to an eventual, actual total of $200 Million. The cost then will wind up being $16,600 per household, with the median Household income in the District at about $53,000, that is an incredible about of money, regardless if it is spread out over the coming decades.</p>
<p>I currently own a home that was built 80 years ago, it is in great condition and I intend on keeping it for another 80 years if possible. While I recognize that BPHS may not last quite that long, it certainly has another 20 years before you even need to think about building new facilities&#8230; maybe another 80 if proper maintenance is done.</p>
<p>To reiterate: when will schools grasp that their quality is not represented by the glamor of their buildings, but by the quality of their student&#8217;s education.</p>
<p>This money could be spent on:</p>
<p>- Creating a permanent endowment to send 100&#8217;s of kids every year on Study Abroad programs.<br />
- Creating the BEST Specialty Academic Program in the state: i.e. Arts or Science/Technology</p>
<p>Both of these things would directly serve students and would make BPHS a destination school for a lot of families.</p>
<p>Parents will choose to move their families to the district, not if the buildings are new, but if the academic programs go the extra mile to serve the students.</p>
<p>Peace,</p>
<p>Tim Cook</p>
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		<title>Comment on Save Our High School! by T. Cenci</title>
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		<dc:creator>T. Cenci</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 May 2009 05:32:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If we want to stop this school then there is only one way left. We have to hire a lawyer and sue the school board. There are 720 people that have signed the petition, if everyone gave $2-10 each that would be enough to retain a good lawyer and stop this right now.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If we want to stop this school then there is only one way left. We have to hire a lawyer and sue the school board. There are 720 people that have signed the petition, if everyone gave $2-10 each that would be enough to retain a good lawyer and stop this right now.</p>
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		<title>Comment on School Choice? It’s up to you! by Bob Steyer</title>
		<link>http://blog.savebethelhigh.com/2009/04/05/school-choice-it%e2%80%99s-up-to-you/comment-page-1/#comment-38</link>
		<dc:creator>Bob Steyer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 May 2009 12:54:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Stop the madness, Stop the new construction, Think, Think, Think, We do not need this burden of debt.</description>
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